300zr engine?
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NissanEggSenior Member
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OK85ZX wrote: Now, when you could use the same amount of money, with less time/labor fix your car, and put it in the 12's… I'm not seeing how this makes it a DET a "good option" just because your turbo and auto transmission are on their way out ( like alot of z31 owners ).
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OK85ZXSenior Member
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[quote]NissanEgg wrote:Originally posted by OK85ZXNow, when you could use the same amount of money, with less time/labor fix your car, and put it in the 12's… I'm not seeing how this makes it a DET a "good option" just because your turbo and auto transmission are on their way out ( like alot of z31 owners ).
Who cares about 1/4 mile times, just put the damn thing in and drive it till the wheels fall off. It would make an interesting conversation piece at the local meet or car show.1985 NA2T(now RB) * 1988 SS x2 * 1984 AE x3 * 2006 350Z
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SATANSenior Member
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[quote]OK85ZX wrote: [quote=NissanEgg]Originally posted by OK85ZXNow, when you could use the same amount of money, with less time/labor fix your car, and put it in the 12's… I'm not seeing how this makes it a DET a "good option" just because your turbo and auto transmission are on their way out ( like alot of z31 owners ).
Who cares about 1/4 mile times, just put the damn thing in and drive it till the wheels fall off. It would make an interesting conversation piece at the local meet or car show.
Do you think there will be much difference on a road course between the two engines with the same power? Of course not.85 Z31 6.0 LSX turbo 766whp/792wtq
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300zxtSenior Member
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NissanEgg wrote:
Doesn't cost any money if you do it yourself, even if it's time consuming.
You also have to consider that this isn't America, JDM engines aren't anythng special here but also 5 speeds for Z31s are almost impossible to find and will fetch upwards of $500 if you can even find one that is which you probably wont. With that said he knows that putting the money into the stock engine will make more power at the end of the day, trust me on that one I've told him lol
But one other thing is that from sources I've read the VG30DET doesn't make much more than the VG30ET does here rated at 255HP vs 230HP in the SOHC so it's going to cost a whole lot of time and money for 25HP! -
zed-031Senior Member
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[quote]300zxt wrote:Originally posted by NissanEggDoesn't cost any money if you do it yourself, even if it's time consuming.
He wont be…
You also have to consider that this isn't America, JDM engines aren't anythng special here but also 5 speeds for Z31s are almost impossible to find and will fetch upwards of $500 if you can even find one that is which you probably wont. With that said he knows that putting the money into the stock engine will make more power at the end of the day, trust me on that one I've told him lol
But one other thing is that from sources I've read the VG30DET doesn't make much more than the VG30ET does here rated at 255HP vs 230HP in the SOHC so it's going to cost a whole lot of time and money for 25HP!
Only thing he won't be doing is custom prop shaft etc. -
300zxtSenior Member
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And you think the VG30ET is hard to work on? LOL You're going to have real fun with this, tried reading a japanese wiring schematic? Oh much fun! -
zed-031Senior Member
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300zxt wrote: And you think the VG30ET is hard to work on? LOL You're going to have real fun with this, tried reading a japanese wiring schematic? Oh much fun! -
300zxtSenior Member
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Haha counting to ten and knowing how to answer the phone in Japanese wont help you read that -
OK85ZXSenior Member
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[quote]SATAN wrote: [quote=OK85ZX][quote=NissanEgg]Originally posted by OK85ZXNow, when you could use the same amount of money, with less time/labor fix your car, and put it in the 12's… I'm not seeing how this makes it a DET a "good option" just because your turbo and auto transmission are on their way out ( like alot of z31 owners ).
Who cares about 1/4 mile times, just put the damn thing in and drive it till the wheels fall off. It would make an interesting conversation piece at the local meet or car show.
Do you think there will be much difference on a road course between the two engines with the same power? Of course not.
Say you have two engines to choose from, VG30E and a VG30DE. They are both making 300hp. You have to choose one for track racing. What ever kind of racing it may be, I would pick the DOHC engine for the fact that it will rev higher giving me a more usable rev range.1985 NA2T(now RB) * 1988 SS x2 * 1984 AE x3 * 2006 350Z
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NissanEggSenior Member
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What I was getting at, screw the 1/4 numbers, just do it. THat's what I would do, something a little different than the norm.
As for not costing any money if you do it yourself, you save on labor and etc. by doing the actual work yourself.
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2+2turboSenior Member
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[quote]OK85ZX wrote: [quote=SATAN][quote=OK85ZX][quote=NissanEgg]Originally posted by OK85ZXNow, when you could use the same amount of money, with less time/labor fix your car, and put it in the 12's… I'm not seeing how this makes it a DET a "good option" just because your turbo and auto transmission are on their way out ( like alot of z31 owners ).
Who cares about 1/4 mile times, just put the damn thing in and drive it till the wheels fall off. It would make an interesting conversation piece at the local meet or car show.
Do you think there will be much difference on a road course between the two engines with the same power? Of course not.
Say you have two engines to choose from, VG30E and a VG30DE. They are both making 300hp. You have to choose one for track racing. What ever kind of racing it may be, I would pick the DOHC engine for the fact that it will rev higher giving me a more usable rev range.
Maybe I'm ignorant, but i don't understand how heavier/more rotating mass, keeping with a 3 litre V6, with generally the same functionality is going to allow you to rev higher?
where the SOHC will have low end torque ,the DOHC will lack . and where the DOHC will have high rev torque , the SOHC will lack .
atleast that's what i think he ment anyway . all i know is that i can build a SOHC to kick a DOHC's ass for alot less than vice versa. -
SATANSenior Member
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just look at the stock redline of the two motors. Typically dual over head cam engines can rev higher due to the LIGHTER valves in the valve train. Yes you have twice as much of it, but all of the components are smaller and lighter weight.
Irronically,here is a comparison of the two engines. This was the very first link that came up when I googled sohc vs. dohc :shock:
Either way, here it is.
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/06/22/ … lvetrains/85 Z31 6.0 LSX turbo 766whp/792wtq
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300zxtSenior Member
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That's nice and all but these JDM engines are a real pain in the ass to work on, alot of people know nothing about them and parts for them are hard to come by and expensive! And sadly all of the online resources about them are written in Japanese, who would of thought? :P -
SATANSenior Member
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300zxt wrote: That's nice and all but these JDM engines are a real pain in the ass to work on, alot of people know nothing about them and parts for them are hard to come by and expensive! And sadly all of the online resources about them are written in Japanese, who would of thought? :P85 Z31 6.0 LSX turbo 766whp/792wtq
04 GTO, LS6, big cam, porting, N20… underway for summertime daily driver. -
300zxtSenior Member
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As I said before, ever seen a Japanese wiring schematic? Not cool! lol