'86 Slicktop with a bent frame. I need opinions.
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1sikzSenior Member
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Any competent shop can fix any of the above issues. There is nothing special about the Z31 that makes it any more difficult to fix the body/frameOriginally posted by adamvann3Hmm I normally jack off my rear x-member. -
jaqattack02Senior Member
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1sikz;332918 wrote: Any competent shop can fix any of the above issues. There is nothing special about the Z31 that makes it any more difficult to fix the body/framePrius… because Pretentious wouldn't fit across the back of the car…
Cheap, Fast, Reliable - pick any two
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TomakzeSenior Member
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True, but how easy is it to find a slicktop with a perfect body? Other than the frame, this car doesn't have a single dent. Scratches, and chips, yes. But no dents whatsoever. Plus it runs like a top. Plus it was only $450! We took it home yesterday. If we can't fix the frame, we will buy a shell. I think we might try to fix the frame ourselves."Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you…"
-'68 Datsun 1600 Roadster
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jaqattack02Senior Member
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Tomakze;332996 wrote: True, but how easy is it to find a slicktop with a perfect body? Other than the frame, this car doesn't have a single dent. Scratches, and chips, yes. But no dents whatsoever. Plus it runs like a top. Plus it was only $450! We took it home yesterday. If we can't fix the frame, we will buy a shell. I think we might try to fix the frame ourselves.Prius… because Pretentious wouldn't fit across the back of the car…
Cheap, Fast, Reliable - pick any two
My 1986 Turbo Build -
1sikzSenior Member
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Tomakze;332996 wrote: I think we might try to fix the frame ourselves.Originally posted by adamvann3Hmm I normally jack off my rear x-member. -
TomakzeSenior Member
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1sikz;333123 wrote: All I have to say after that comment is may that slicktop rest in peace…"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you…"
-'68 Datsun 1600 Roadster
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-'85 300zx Turbo
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Augustus MaximusSenior Member
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Don't to do it yourself. That shit is like geometry as you straighten here, you lose shit over there. Stuff must be held in place while you pull. Since you bought it, man up and spend on it.Cha iro
enjoy building it yourself.
if it fails, fuck it.
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TomakzeSenior Member
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Actually, I've got a decent game plan. The advantage we have is that we have a straight car and a bent car. We can use my turbo to take measurements to determine what bent. Then, once we know what needs to change, we build a jig using my car to line up all the bolt holes and whatnot. That will act as an exact basis for what needs to be where. Then we just have to line it all up to the jig. We wouldn't even necessarily need a donor car. The bend doesn't look that bad anyway. Measuring will tell us exactly how bad it is though.
Frames aren't rocket science, there is no magic involved. As long as it ends up straight and strong, we're in business. I was thinking we could even do some frame re-enforcement at the same time and create some bracing."Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you…"
-'68 Datsun 1600 Roadster
Build Thread: http://community.ratsun.net/topic/21…-build-thread/
-'85 300zx Turbo
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1sikzSenior Member
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There is a reason that shops use laser precise measurements when making frame repairs…Originally posted by adamvann3Hmm I normally jack off my rear x-member. -
i r teh noobzSenior Member
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First thing I'd do is put it on an alignment machine and see how bad it actually is. If its something that can be fixed with adjustable tension rods or camber plates then fix the alignment and leave the body alone.5.3 LSx Z31 -
reddzxSenior Citizen
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I fixed a couple wrecked cars that were worse than that, all it takes is money.
1988 300ZX Turbo, Shiro Special #760
1988 300ZX Turbo Automatic (wife's car)
1991 Hard-body 2WD
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G-EJunior Member
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You guys don't need to fuss over the difficulty of fixing a frame, the body was put together in sections at the factory, the ONLY thing they had was a unibody jig that supported the car evenly while they bolted/welded in subsequent pieces
Therefore, all you really need to do is support the car the same way, remove all unnecessary weight like the drivetrain, and use the FSM (it has a nifty measurements page you can check your major points for deviation)
My racecar hit a snowbank in it's previous life, made the bumper support tilt up one side, bent the headlight bucket a touch, but the chassis itself measured true, even with dented frame rails -
TempestasSenior Member
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Some body shops have complex frame machines with laser measurement, ect. Many body shops have anchored rails, hydraulic rams, and tape measures. -
Dr. Pepper PhD.Senior Member
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G-E;333342 wrote: You guys don't need to fuss over the difficulty of fixing a frame, the body was put together in sections at the factory, the ONLY thing they had was a unibody jig that supported the car evenly while they bolted/welded in subsequent pieces
Therefore, all you really need to do is support the car the same way, remove all unnecessary weight like the drivetrain, and use the FSM (it has a nifty measurements page you can check your major points for deviation)
My racecar hit a snowbank in it's previous life, made the bumper support tilt up one side, bent the headlight bucket a touch, but the chassis itself measured true, even with dented frame rails
Technically every section can be drilled from a donor car by drilling out the spot welds, and welded onto the new body. You can also still order most of those sections new from Nissan, depending on how much cash you are willing to shell out.88SS - #300 - http://z31performance.com/showthread.php?18360 -
TomakzeSenior Member
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Dr. Pepper PhD.;333608 wrote: +1
Technically every section can be drilled from a donor car by drilling out the spot welds, and welded onto the new body. You can also still order most of those sections new from Nissan, depending on how much cash you are willing to shell out."Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you…"
-'68 Datsun 1600 Roadster
Build Thread: http://community.ratsun.net/topic/21…-build-thread/
-'85 300zx Turbo
Build Thread: http://z31performance.com/showthread…)build-thread!